Saorview

Irish Free To Air Digital Terrestrial TV.
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Ramp up of DSO campaign

Is there such a thing as too much information?

TV and Radio (Satellite & Terrestrial)

 


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Saor is Gaelic (Irish) for Free and is pronounced "seer" as in seering meat in a pan.

Saorview is Digital Terrestrial in Ireland using DVB-T (DVB-T2 tuners will work), HD, MPEG4 H.264. HD downsampling on SCART is needed for non-HDTV with setbox. MHEG5 middleware. A regular UHF aerial is used for reception.

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DVBviewer pro 4.8.1 release

The changelog:

MHEG5

We finally added MHEG-5 support to the DVBViewer.

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RTEjr and RTE2 HD

Today Friday 27th May 2011 the "test channel" on Saorview became RTEjr (till 7pm each day)

RTEjr on Saorview

Also RTE2 is transmitting in HD

RTEjr on Saorview

And MHEG5 running on DVBviewer

RTEjr on Saorview

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Magner's League Rugby 28th May 2011 1920x1080p screen shot in DVBviewer< (1440 x1080i transmission)

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MHEG5 on XP

DVBviewer 4.8.1 (€15) is out and adds improved MHEG5 support.

Update to previous 4.8.0.1 released 3rd June 2011. Fixes some bugs seen below

The MHEG5 is a plug in to be purchased separately (€10).

Here is a Preview Video (youtube) of MHEG5 on DVBviewer

I will review later.

With 2nd June 2011 Version 4.8.1 of DVBviewer pro the MHEG bugs of time and video scale are fixed.

mheg481


One "bug" is due to having wrong "DirectX" Renderer. On XP you need

[X] Use Custom Renderers

 [ VMR9 Custom Renderer ]

(On Win 7 use EVR Custom Renderer)

rte2-sample1s

RTE 2 HD rendered correctly


Government DTT Warning published in 2008

Excerpt Below is historic Archive of Information published in 2008 by the Irish Government.

Quote:
Information on DTT Receivers

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Consent for New Services on Saorview

Good News: RTÉ's new Saorview services are approved. This means the Information Campaign can start.

Interesting conditions attaching to Specific Channels

  1. RTÉ Two HD Select channel is required to be carried on the second multiplex.

  2. The knowledge gained from technical trialling of the HD channel will be shared with other broadcasters
  3. RTÉ should aim to provide for full HD versions of RTÉ One and RTÉ Two as soon as practicable and by mid 2013 at the latest
  4. The RTÉjr/RTÉ Plus channel shall be carried on the first multiplex until 1 September 2011 and from 1 September 2011 shall be transferred to the second multiplex
  5. No advertising is permitted on the RTÉjr or RTÉ News Now channel
  6. In respect of RTÉjr and RTÉ News Now, RTÉ shall review Phase 2 of these channel proposals on foot of the suggestions set out in the public consultation in order to further enhance the public value of the channels.
  7. RTÉ Plus: Phase 1 only is approved and for a period of 4 years only until February 2014.

We like the "no advertising" clause on RTEjr and RTE News Now. Proper Public Service Broadcasting!

Why is it any business of DCENR how the PSB multiplexes are organised if channels are approved? That should be purely an Engineering decision.

Free TV For Dummies

I’m a guy who knows very little about how TV operates. I just like to plug the thing in and see it work. When I was connecting up my Sky box, I tended to just stick cables into the ports that fit like some sort of grown-up jigsaw rather than know what I was actually doing.

 

So it was with some degree of trepidation that I embarked on the road to ditch my monthly Sky pay TV and replace it with…well this was my first problem….what do I replace it with? So if, like me, you’re clueless with this sort of television techno-babble, read on and I’ll share my experience with you.

 

The Goal

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Retail ASO Awareness Part 2

East Side of Limerick City

There was not a single place that mentioned Saorview, We encountered a sorry story, Huge price tags again and tiny insufficient (sometimes misleading) specification tags, sometimes no specifications at all. NO indication of the ASO or DSO. If you didn't know about it you wouldn't know. 

(See SaorTV.info for all about Irish Digital TV<)

The first stop was Harvey Normans. Most TVs simply had a large price tag, that would be fine if it wasn't for the fact some of these TVs are good for little else other than being a monitor. There were some sets that mentioned MPEG4, but what use is that to a person who has never heard of the DSO, who doesn't know Saorview exists. More sinisterly this mentioning of MPEG4 implies that Harvey Normans does indeed know about the ASO, DSO and Saorview. Then if they know about it they are keeping quiet about it, which could mean they are with full knowledge and intent product dumping, selling goods not fit for their purchase.

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What DSO?

We (Techtir) have had a Work Experience Student doing a survey this week. The results are very bad.

DSO Digital Switch Over. The fact that Saorview is now available officially since 29th October 2010, though full Launch is May 2011

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Retail ASO awareness part1

I was sent into Limerick City to investigate the state of Retail with regards the ASO and DSO. I was given a form to fill in after leaving each shop.

I did not make my self obvious to shop employees as far as they knew I was a simple customer or window shopper.

One of the first things I noticed about the places I went to was the sheer absence of reference to the ASO, DSO and Saorview.

(See SaorTV.info for all about Irish Digital TV<)

SaorView Logo on screen on RTE 1 DTT

Isn't it dreadful? 

Way too big, in the wrong place and why is it necessary at all? Could cause burn- in to Plasmas, CRTs, and even some LCD displays.

Don't know yet if it is temporary or permanent, but it needs to go! 

Petition here

http://www.petitiononline.ie/petition/lose-the-saorview-on-screen-logo-from-rt-1/11<

Setboxes and TVs for Saorview

We now recommend only Saorview approved set-box or TV is purchased.

Approved Products List.<

At present there is no approved true PVR, So you may want to use a PC with DVBviewer and Dual DTT USB stick or a Humax "Freeview HD" HDR / PVR, though it's not certified nor fully compatible.

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Getting Saorview in Northern Ireland

This article has been updated on February 2012 to update certain information and to remove stuff that is no longer relevant.